Is the summer heat getting to you and making it more challenging to adventure?

Totally get it. In fact, a couple of weeks ago – during the 115°F heat wave – our oldest came downstairs at bedtime looking kinda rough. He was pale, a little clammy and said he felt nauseous.

Right away, I noticed those as signs of potential heat exhaustion and started re-hydrating him and monitoring his temperature. Thankfully, after just an hour or so, he picked right back up, but it led me to share this information with our email list in our newsletter.

Then, I realized that not everyone is on our email list (but you should totally join us here), so I wanted to share on our other channels as well. So, I reached out to some fellow adventure mamas on Instagram (who also happen to be nurses) to chat all about adventuring in the heat.

I invited Sara from Koppa 7 Adventures (@koppa7adventures), Stephanie from @thebackpackingmom, and Rachel from @beboldlittelones to join me in this chat and it was so fun!

And, then, we decided, why not turn it into a podcast episode for those of you who aren’t on Instagram, so here we are!

In this episode, we chat about:

  • What we do to beat the heat
  • Gear and products we use to stay cool and hydrated
  • How we choose adventures when it’s super hot
  • How we maintain motivation
  • Dealing with heat rash
  • And more!

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We had so much fun during this conversation and one of my favorite things was that all of us are from different states and nursing backgrounds, so we have different experiences with the heat and we’re able to share from different perspectives.

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TSF Podcast Episode 11 | Gretchen | Roamerica

Tiffany: Note: This transcript is auto-generated. Though transcripts are largely accurate, discrepancies and errors may occur.

Podcast Episode 12 | IG Live Adventuring in the Heat

Tiffany: Welcome to The Stoke Fam, the podcast designed to help families at venture more and stress less on this show. We give you the competence and inspiration. You need to find your stove by sharing interviews from real families, doing amazing things. Conversations with brands who make adventures easier and all the things we wish we’d known sooner.

[00:00:19] Come on, let’s go.

[00:00:25] Welcome back Stoke Fam. Recently, over on Instagram, we had an Instagram live with three other adventure mamas who also all happened to be nurses. And we were talking all about adventuring in the heat. We had a lot of great discussion and advice and tips on that conversation. And I really wanted to bring that to you.

[00:00:42] So this week’s episode is going to be a little bit different. I am going to share a little bit of info here at the beginning, and then we’re going to get right into that Instagram live. I am going to share it here with you and I will not be doing any takeaways or anything like that at the end, because we kind of did it in the live.

[00:00:57] So I don’t want to make you sit through it twice. And secondly, the audio on this one is a little bit. Because it was recorded through Instagram and there’s really only so much I can do about it, but the information is still solid. And I think it’s worth a listen. And if you can get past the first minute or two, I don’t think you’ll notice it as much.

[00:01:13] Um, I do also say it in the live, but just reminder that we’re nurses, but we’re not your nurses. So they’re, they’re tips, not medical advice. And there will also be a link to the newsletter that I’ve mentioned in the show notes, as well as in our Instagram. And also, this is our last episode for our first season.

[00:01:30] We are going to take a bit of a break for the rest of summer to spend more time together and adventure more, but we’ll be back in the fall. Afterschool is kind of ramped back up again. And speaking of if there are any topics or things you’d love to hear about on the next season, we really want to know I’ve actually created.

[00:01:43] Speak pipe, voicemail, where you can share your ideas with us. And I will link to that in the comments. Of course you can always just use the DM on Instagram or send us an email, but that’s one other way for you to send it. That might be a little faster for you. And last but not least, if you’ve enjoyed our first season and can take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, we would really be grateful.

[00:02:01] It really helps our show to grow and help us to reach more people. And you know what? Let’s actually make this a little bit fun. Let’s turn it into. Between now, let’s see today’s the 19th. So between now and September 1st, this is 2021. By the way, if you share the podcast with a friend, share it on your Insta, or even give us a rating and review in iTunes, we will give you an entry into a giveaway for a family adventure prize pack.

[00:02:23] You can get one entry for each of those. So let’s say, um, up to three total per person, just screenshot them and send them to me at hello at the stoke fan book. You’re welcome to tag me. And that also is great. I will try to keep track of all of those as well. However, sometimes notifications get lost. So I just want to make sure you get credit.

[00:02:40] Um, so the best way to ensure that is to make sure that you go ahead and send me a quick email. Okay. Let’s get right into our chat with Sarah from Koppa 7 Adventures, Rachel from Be Bold Little Ones and Stephanie from The Backpacking Mom. Hello. Okay. We’re live. Um, thank you everybody. Who’s joining us. I am super excited about this talk and I am going to go ahead and invite the other mommas who are joining me.

[00:03:03] So hang on just one second. Okay. I get them added

[00:03:09] break the internet. Okay, cool.

[00:03:14] Are you guys

[00:03:19] okay? Thank you so much for joining us. Um, so I think we’re all here. So first off, I just want to say thank you for jumping in to talk about safely and venturing into heat. And before we get started, I’m just going to lay this blanket disclaimer, out there that. All four of us are nurses, but we’re not your nurses.

[00:03:39] So, um, this isn’t your medical advice, but we are going to speak to you from our experience as nurses and as adventure mamas. So, um, now that we have that other way, um, I wanted to start out by having us all, just kind of share a little bit about us so that those of you who don’t know who one of us are.

[00:03:55] Get a little introduction and then we’ll get right into it. So, um, I can start out real quick. I am Tiffany, I’m a mom, we’re a family farm and I’m a mom of four. I only have two kids. I have two boys and they are nine and 11. So we are entering the tween years and we love to do things like hiking, camping, outdoor adventure, travel.

[00:04:16] That’s related to outdoor adventure. When we travel, you’ll often see us doing all of the outdoor things because. We love it. And, um, we, John and I short story is my husband and I actually met in nursing school years ago, more years ago than I want to admit. So anyway, we both have that background, so it’s kind of cool when we’re able to kind of take that into what we’re doing.

[00:04:39] So, um, I will let somebody else do a little introduction. Um, maybe let’s see Stephanie, you’re next on my screen. You wanna go next? 

[00:04:48] Stephanie: Yeah. So I’m Stephanie, I’m the backpacking mom on Instagram. No surprise. You like to backpack during the summer, right? Uh, um, I am a mom of three kiddos. I have a 13 year old and nine year old and, um, a nine month old baby.

[00:05:02] So kind of all the spread there. Um, summer is our main jam for when we backpack. So we’re very used to, um, the struggles that come with adventuring in the. 

[00:05:13] Tiffany: And I am a nurse. So then 

[00:05:14] Stephanie: a nurse are also longer than I care to admit 10 years now. So, um, 

[00:05:20] Tiffany: yeah, I’m excited to have this chat with you guys. Awesome.

[00:05:24] Thank you. Um, Sarah. 

[00:05:28] Sara: Can you guys hear me? Okay. All right. Good. Um, so I am Sarah and I’m the main voice behind CAPA seven adventures. And as you can tell by the name, there are seven of us. So we have five kids, um, sort of spread out, uh, like the backpacking mom. We have, um, 15, 14, 11, 6, and three, and I actually got them all over.

[00:05:57] Um, so I don’t know. I guess it gets harder. I really struggle at doctor appointments. Um, but yeah, we actually live in Wisconsin, so not so hot, but we travel all the time. So definitely have had our fair share of. Um, issues in the heat, especially coming from a cold climate. And the first couple of times we went down to let’s say like Arizona, um, we definitely had some wake up calls as to what we needed to be doing and what was really important to focus on.

[00:06:31] Rachel: All right. I’ll go next since like last week. Um, I’m Rachel and I am the voice behind be bold little ones and I am Amala too. I’m just going to start saying four. I’ve got three little girls. And then, um, a little baby boy on the way, and he’ll be here with us and just a couple months. And then my oldest daughter is eight and then I’ve got a five-year-old and a two-year-old.

[00:06:58] And we also, the summer is our thing. Even in the winter, we’re chasing warm weather in the van, trying to, I know I should embrace the snow in Utah, but I just can’t really do it. So we’re going to keep chasing the heat 

[00:07:14] Tiffany: as much as possible. Well, I can’t say I blame you. I love the heat. If it wasn’t for my husband, I probably would have never gotten into snowboarding and actually enjoy it.

[00:07:22] Cause he like loves it. Loves it for those of you who don’t know, like he is like major in the snowboarding and he convinced me, even though I sucked at all snow sports before I met him, he convinced me to try it again. And I actually really love it now, but it took a long time and I still hate being cold.

[00:07:35] So yeah. 

[00:07:37] Rachel: So I’m used to the, I grew up in the car. But my husband doesn’t do any of those. And so we stopped doing all winter sports when I got married. And so now 

[00:07:50] Tiffany: what makes you happy? Right? Do what makes you happy? Okay. Cool. So we kind of got a few topics that we were going to go ahead and cover. And we’ve had a few people who have, um, shared questions with us, but if you are listening and you’re on the call and you have on the call on the live, just go ahead and add them to the comments.

[00:08:11] And we will get to as many as we can as we kind of go through our conversation. So. Yeah. Got it. All right. Cool. So the first question that we wanted to talk about from all of our perspectives was, um, when adventuring in the summer, what is something that your family does to beat the heat? So we’re just kind of going to go around the circle and let everybody share like little tips and tricks that we found that worked well for our families.

[00:08:38] And, um, we’ll just keep going in the same order. So Stephanie, you wanna. 

[00:08:42] Stephanie: So one tip that we do is we’re very conscious of our water sources, right? So a lot of the dangers that come with adventuring in the heat is dehydration. Um, the way you can beat that by staying hydrated. Um, so we do pack a lot of water, but the other thing that we bring.

[00:08:59] Steady pen. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with it, but it’s basically just about the size of a pen. You can fill up in like a stream if you’re hiking by it or even a lake. Um, and you can sterilize and purify your water on the go. So you don’t have to pack like five gallons of water for everybody. Um, but if you’re going to be hiking near a water source, Um, you can refill and replenish.

[00:09:22] Um, so that is definitely something we’re very conscious of making sure we’re going to be by a water source, um, and bringing that story pen so we can fill back up on water and make sure, you know, everyone stays hydrated. So that’s just one tip from me. Yeah. Steal 

[00:09:36] Tiffany: them off.

[00:09:40] Those are great tips though. And I think like you hit the nail on the head. Dehydration is probably the most concerned when it’s really hot. So like, those are perfect to start with, um, pre I was like, I forgot already. 

[00:09:55] Sara: Um, so yeah, water, definitely. I think the most important one. Um, what we ended up doing after we had a really failed hike in Arizona, like I was kind of talking about earlier, um, is me map out the exact trail or path that we’re going to take when we hike and make sure that.

[00:10:17] We check on like all trails or something like that to see if there’s shade to see if there’s, you know, places where the kids can maybe stop and take a break, um, and really evaluate just how long and how much maybe, and things like that. You’re going to have to take into account in order to complete the hikes.

[00:10:35] So if it’s a really hot day, we usually won’t go over. A mile and a half with our kids, just because our kids are not conditioned to that type of heat. So I think it’s kind of knowing your bound boundaries and, um, doing some trial runs first to see what your kids can handle. 

[00:10:55] Rachel: Yeah, I think, I mean, mine goes right along to you guys.

[00:10:59] I think water’s the biggest thing for us. We try to stay near water. Um, I mean, obviously we have some activities that are not hiking that we do sometimes like paddleboarding boarding and swimming, and we try to do those things to beat the heat. But hiking is definitely the thing that we’re doing most often.

[00:11:16] So when we’re doing that, um, I try to have not only the water source, but like. Make that water accessible. And so a waterfall that they can go into or a hike that ends in a lake that they’re allowed to swim in or something that gives the kids a way to like give a break to that heat and get in and cool down and get wet.

[00:11:41] Our goal on, on hot hikes is to get wet. At some point in hike. That’s probably our, our number one thing is that we end up in the way. 

[00:11:54] Tiffany: I love that tip everything, especially you guys in your area, and you have stuff that I didn’t think about as much, because we don’t see it here as often, but we were just there last week and we didn’t realize how many of the lakes and river, well, mostly late, but our water.

[00:12:13] Resources or watersheds. And so you can’t swim in those. So even though there may be water on your chair, you may not be able to get in it. You might be able to refill, but you can’t get you this. And so that was something we didn’t realize it first. So you have to know 

[00:12:27] Rachel: like the area you’re going to, and if you’re even allowed to get 

[00:12:30] Tiffany: in the way.

[00:12:31] Yeah, totally. Um, so I, we basically do a lot in the same things. And the other thing that I definitely noticed or thought about as well is that we tend to try, if we know it’s going to be super hot, we’ll try to not only, you know, picked the height from the shade and the, um, have plenty of water and, you know, a way to filter more and all of those things.

[00:12:50] But we also try to look at hikes that maybe. Start at higher elevation because then if you can get up higher, you’re already going to like drop that temp a bit. So, um, even here in our, in the Pacific Northwest, we definitely see that temp change. So like growth here in the Metro area versus like going up to the mountains, we can easily see a 10 degree drop.

[00:13:11] Last week when we were in Utah, we saw an, almost 30, 30 to 35 degree drop when we went from, um, like the salt lake city park city, you know, Metro area up into the mountains. We were like 105 to like 72. It was like, so finding those higher elevation Heights can definitely help too. I think. Um, thank you.

[00:13:32] That was awesome. We can find the hill in Wisconsin

[00:13:47] that we wanted to cover and kind of what. Yeah. Have you ever been in a situation where you or someone you were with had symptoms of a heat related illness and how did you handle it? Because I think that that’s something that can be super valuable for everybody. Who’s listening to kind of learn tips and tricks from what we, as nurses with jumping and doing what we look for, um, in our kids, ourselves or other people who are with while we’re out adventuring.

[00:14:12] Yeah. 

[00:14:13] Stephanie: So actually one of the first one-on-one trips I took with my son, um, I’m like the tutorial I was notorious for kind of maybe pushing the outer bounds of their limitations. So of course my son’s seven and we like marched him. I marched him up like six miles up hill and, um, you know, we did have.

[00:14:35] Water, but I think he got pretty dehydrated. He’s just a little guy and he really exerted himself. So he had a pretty big headache. Um, it could have been the elevation too, but I think the combination of elevation and dehydration, um, I was worried about him. Uh, so of course being a nurse, I was like, okay, 

[00:14:53] Tiffany: doing like neuro checks and like, 

[00:14:56] Stephanie: I’m very worried.

[00:14:56] It wasn’t anything like that. I did just have him go ahead and drink a whole liter of water. I’m laid down. Yeah. Had him take some ibuprofen. If it didn’t help, you know, I was probably gonna head down, but those things alleviated it and we went on to finish it. Um, justifying. So that was the one time that I was like, pretty worried about one of my kiddos.

[00:15:20] We haven’t thankfully had anything since that, but, um, yeah, I think he definitely got a little dehydrated on the trail there, so definitely really 

[00:15:27] Tiffany: feeling it. So, um, 

[00:15:33] Sara: Um, so I’ve obviously taken care of patients that have had heat stroke, but I actually had heat stroke as a teenager. And my experience was, you know, I felt fine while I was actually participating in the events I was riding bike.

[00:15:52] It was a hot summer day. Um, we rode bike all day and then we walked and definitely didn’t have enough water. And it was afterwards that I actually got sick. Um, and I started to get a headache and get dizzy and I actually started throwing up. Um, I was really, really ill. Um, And that was the, for my nursing days.

[00:16:14] So of course I went to a hospital and, um, they pretty much said, well, we can check you in, but if you just drink some electrolytes and laid down, you’ll probably be fine. And I’m glad that they told me that it was a small hospital. And I was like, well, okay. So we just went and got some, some kind of sports drink with electrolytes in it.

[00:16:35] Um, in hindsight I liked to. I think Pedialyte works really well. Um, but just, you know, rest get some, not just water, but some type of electrolytes in your system. Um, and that is probably one of the best things 

[00:16:52] Tiffany: you can do.

[00:16:56] Rachel: So for us, um, we’ve never had any of our kids or a skit, anything really bad. Um, Like you, Tiffany, my husband’s a nurse too. So our poor kids, they just get it from 

[00:17:10] Sara: all the family. All right. 

[00:17:15] Rachel: Um, and so we’re both very conscious. So if our kids, even on a hike or like, I kind of have a headache then immediately stopping, going in the shade, um, We agreeing an empty water bottle that we always fill up by the water that we’re in and just douse the kids in water.

[00:17:35] If they, like I said, if we haven’t gotten wet, my husband will get them wet. We’ll we’ll just spend the entire time doubting them in water. And then obviously, Uh, getting them to drink. And then Pedialyte is actually what we have a bit on hand with us on the hikes. If they start to get a headache at all, um, then we stopped right then, and then try to.

[00:18:01] Hold it. So luckily we haven’t had anything too bad, but I think the big key there is like knowing not only knowing the signs and symptoms, but like knowing to prepare ahead of time. Like we, you know, they have to drink a lot, all morning before we even get to a hike, if it’s a hot day and then on the hike, but all the things that prevent, uh, Or what I think are the biggest things, so that you’re aware of the signs, but that hopefully you don’t have to get there.

[00:18:36] That’s my husband 

[00:18:37] Tiffany: commenting.

[00:18:43] I actually saw 

[00:18:44] Sara: that comment and I’m like, who 

[00:18:45] Tiffany: posted that?

[00:18:51] Oh, well, the other, the rest of you were talking, I actually was thinking about that. That’s one of the others had said I was going to get, is that when we’re getting ready to adventure, like that is one of the things that we do to beat the heat too, is we pre, hydrate, like, if I know that we’re going on a hike the next day, then I will have the kids start the night before.

[00:19:08] Drinking, extra fluids, getting some electrolytes in them ahead of time. And in this same thing, the morning of all those things, I think it helps a lot to be ahead of it versus trying to play catch up. 

[00:19:19] Sara: And the younger, the kid, the harder their head, like they’re so sensitive to that fluid imbalance and heat.

[00:19:27] Tiffany: Yeah, it’s really important. Yeah. And you know, we’ve had a couple of times where like the kids start to get those mild things. Like I have a headache, I have this, I have that, but a couple of weeks ago, actually, we had this huge heat wave here in Portland. Right. And the Portland area. And. My oldest comes down at like 10 30, 10 30 or 11 at night.

[00:19:46] And he goes, well, I don’t feel good. And I looked up at him and he was white as a sheet. He had, um, he felt clammy to the touch and he’s like, I have a headache. I think I’m going to throw up. He needs fluids. And my husband was like, are you sure? Maybe he has to send it back? I’m like, no, he needs, he needs fluids.

[00:20:04] It’s been hot. And he was out playing and I bet you money. He didn’t drink enough. Cause like we were in and out, he was so he was in and out of the AC. And even though he was drinking, it wasn’t enough to make up. The heat different. So even though you weren’t like out on this long hike, it really caught up with him.

[00:20:19] So, um, those are some of the things that are a little bit more secure keys it for pop. It was fine. We didn’t have to take your meds, but we had to definitely watch him for the next couple of hours and make sure he got in that hydration. But, um, the biggest time I remember being out and about was when I was doing camp nursing a few years ago and we had, um, an characteristically hot week, not the 115, like we had recently.

[00:20:44] It was probably mid nineties. It had been hot the week before. So kids had been out playing already and they kids dropped off at camp that whole day of camp, you know, that whole transition, like they don’t drink well anyway. And they were dropped off, went to from one activity to another. And then the next day I started saying like one kid after the other, my tummy hurts or I feel tired or.

[00:21:06] I have a headache. And I was like, oh, this is everyone. The whole campus dropping like flies from the feet. So then we basically turned that to a big push for again, hydration. Um, we can’t give electrolyzer cancer, the whole thing, but, um, hydration and, um, taking the kids into the shade or into the AC where we can find if you can find it.

[00:21:26] Um, that is definitely helpful too. And the past couple of years that have been, um, and signs and symptoms that we started to see when the heat is starting to really affect kids. Um, and then the next question that we wanted to touch base on was how, and I think we kind of already covered it, but if you have anything else to add, we can jump in here.

[00:21:49] I’ll just kind of let this one be a free for all. So do you guys have anything else to add about how you choose hikes or adventures when it’s hot outside? Um, So anything, I mean, I know we’ve talked about kind of the higher elevation height or shade or water, but if there’s anything else you have that.

[00:22:05] Um, I would say 

[00:22:06] Stephanie: timing. So not being out in the hottest part of the day and here in like high desert land, like Boise, um, the hottest part of the day, isn’t actually new. Like it’s later in the afternoon where it’s like just the ground and it has had a chance to heat up and like the sun is still out and like, you can just be baking at like three, even four o’clock because it stays light really pretty late until like 10:00 PM here.

[00:22:32] Um, so if we’re going to go, we like to go like eat, eat even like after 8:00 PM for like a local hike and hit the sunset, or we try to get up real early and be out and back before, like your typical day hikers. Um, and baby be chilling by like a body of water for the rest of the day. Uh, so that’s kind of something that we do to, um, also combat the heat cause we, yeah, we’ve been over a hundred for almost two weeks now here and it’s like oppressive.

[00:23:04] Sara: Yeah, it’s brutal. That’s one thing we don’t get, we have some awful winters, but

[00:23:15] Rachel: it has these heat waves have been insane. A few of our camping trips have been hitting like one 10 and it, oh my gosh. It takes the fun out of a lot of things at that point, when you get home. But we do the same that we, we hike it sunset where I’m not good at mornings, especially during pregnancy, because we’re like high before the sun comes and it’s not happening.

[00:23:45] Well, we do a lot of evening hikes. And then for us, it’s just distance. Like, you know, a one 10 degree weather is not the time we’re going to try a six mile hike with a two-year-old and a five-year-old. And so, um, the, the hikes are less, I guess, epic, you know, they’re one mile hikes are fine for, for us in the crazy heat.

[00:24:10] So distance is 

[00:24:12] Tiffany: a big one. I agree. I think distance is huge. Um, when we were, we went to antelope violin while we were in that order Utah area. And I did not even realize how much warmer it was going to be from some of the other areas we had been in. So it was like 10 degrees warmer than where we had been in park city.

[00:24:31] And so we got there and I was like, oh, we’ll do a couple short hikes. And we did, but they were, I had to cut out what I had planned on because it was so hot. And so you sometimes just have to evaluate to how everybody’s doing. So we.  No, there’s no shade. There’s literally no shade. And the water is, that’s a whole nother story that I share later, but like the water is there, the whole of your face.

[00:24:52] So it’s the same

[00:24:57] one or two. So you don’t have somewhere to, you have limited places to refill while you’re there too. So all of that is it’s a planning thing and we took a bunch of water with us. We had extra in the truck. We cooled off between stops, um, you know, in the AC. I felt terrible. And I’m like, this is awful, but I have to go out like, this is terrible.

[00:25:14] Shouldn’t be really hard, but I have no choice. Um, so yeah, it was like quarter mile, Ian, and then at quarter mile back, and then we did do one, one mile hike and, and the boys were like, like they were melting and I’m like, okay, I’m not going to push it. We’re done. We’ll just call him. We got, we got to see yet.

[00:25:30] And that’s just that, so yeah. Distance is huge too. I agree. Completely. And even actually, the other thing we did when we were married, we didn’t go in the visitor center. So if you have a place that has other spots that you can break up, like if you’re busy somewhere like that, or a national park, and it’s really high head to the visitor centers to go in and kind of cool off for a minute before you go back out, if you’re not on like a big, long hike or way far away from those kind of resource.

[00:25:55] Super helpful. Um, and then, um, we had a couple of questions that were submitted ahead of time, and one of them was how do you maintain?

[00:26:09] Um, so I will see if anybody else wants to answer that. I got it for everything. Shameless, bribery, shameless. 

[00:26:20] Stephanie: Okay. What do we want to do? Right. Like my kids I’m like, what do you guys want 

[00:26:26] Tiffany: it to me straight.

[00:26:32] Absolutely do motivation. Gregory. All the time. Skittles seems to work really well in our house. 

[00:26:40] Stephanie: Yeah. Or like a reward kind of, you know, like end somewhere with water, you know, have, have a destination, has to have a reward for yourself that we’re going to go in this waterfall. We’re going to jump in this Alpine lake.

[00:26:51] We’re going to someone just said, Skittles, like, yeah, whatever it is, 

[00:26:55] Tiffany: we’re going to. 

[00:26:56] Stephanie: We’re to get 

[00:26:57] Tiffany: out there and to do it, I’ll be 

[00:27:00] Rachel: gone next level rewards before, like when I knew I was pushing the girls to something, they were not going to be fans of, I got like those little blind bags that have like one little prize that the girls love and.

[00:27:19] If they got to the destination, they got a blame bag because as like anything to get them wanting to be up there. And I mean, but for me, the motivation is I know I’m a better mom. Like even if it’s miserably hot, I know I will be a better mom in miserably, hot weather than I will be. At home for like cooped up in a, a small space together.

[00:27:45] So I know everyone’s going to be happier, even if it does 

[00:27:51] Tiffany: 100%, 

[00:27:53] Sara: I find it hardest with my teenagers to be honest. Cause, you know, they don’t like the bribes, they just don’t care anymore. You know? And so it almost has to be like a destination that they really want to go to. And sometimes we, sometimes we give them the option, like.

[00:28:15] Want to come with for this one. That’s okay. You can come with for the next one. And they’re actually usually pretty cool with that. They just don’t want to do every single one anymore. And that’s okay. Like they’re, they’re exploring their friends and, you know, different season of life. And so I think that’s something that, um, yeah.

[00:28:34] We’re pretty relaxed parents, I guess you could say. And like, we want them to have a healthy balance. So I think the teenagers are actually harder than our little ones. The little ones we can usually convince. Pretty, 

[00:28:47] Stephanie: totally. That is 

[00:28:49] Tiffany: at least that point. Like it’s 

[00:28:52] Stephanie: hard. Teenagers are hard. You’re right.

[00:28:53] They’re like we don’t want to do. So 

[00:28:58] Tiffany: you’re scaring me

[00:29:05] Stephanie: figure it out. So, you know, my teenager likes to fish, so, you know, incorporating that like, Hey, we’re going to hike to this lake that has like sweet fishing or by this river. So trying to like pull in stuff that they do, like just the stakes are higher. Like it has to be real. 

[00:29:18] Tiffany: So that’s actually really, really a good point because I noticed that too, all black suite, the only thing my 11 year old.

[00:29:27] Was go swimming the entire time we were there. He just wanted to go the pool and go to the pool and it was insanely crowded. So we were trying to avoid, but we were able to find compromises and do things like going to one of the reservoirs where he gets slammed or going to, we actually redirecting and like, so funding things that like they’re interested in and like tweaking that I think is a really good tip.

[00:29:49] Sometimes. Yeah. 

[00:29:51] Sara: Let them bring up friends. A lot of success with that too. Especially with my daughter, because she’s got some really like friends that are close to her and she’s the one who’s freshmen this year. And, um, and that really helps because then she’s got someone to talk to and, you know, it’s not just her little siblings and her brother, which isn’t cool anymore.

[00:30:14] Stephanie: Yeah, no, we’re in a very similar stage, I think with our olders, because yeah, if you bring a friend it’s almost easier, cause they just kind of go off and do their own thing. They don’t end up like making the entertainment, bothering their younger siblings. So, um, it’s much better if we could just like, Hey, 

[00:30:30] Tiffany: like whoever I don’t even care, just bring them.

[00:30:32] Yep. Great. Super smart. Okay. So not, I’m actually curious. I’m just, I saw one of the comments pop up and I wouldn’t make her off-road. I want to know what you’re cooking for them, but because I’m like literally have no food in the house. I, we came home from our trip and I scrounged the whole week until tonight, like, and finished up all of our food and.

[00:30:55] I can hear my husband laughing downstairs cause it’s serious and he’s listening and he knows everything left. And I told him to pick up dinner on the way home. Cause I was like,

[00:31:07] okay. So the last question we have is how do you prevent heat rash? I thought this is a great question. 

[00:31:13] Sara: What was the question? 

[00:31:16] Tiffany: How do you prevent heat? Right. Oh, okay.

[00:31:23] I got gifted.

[00:31:27] Rachel: Um, but I think. A lot of times we think like the tank tops and the sh uh, shorts are going to be the coolest thing in the heat. And if you remember a lot of times, heat rash, um, can be in places of like friction and stuff. So wearing actually, um, Good loose fitting and like, uh, light clothing, but wearing sleeves, wearing longer shorts, things like that can, can help prevent the heat rash because you’re not getting a lot of like skin on skin.

[00:32:05] Um, and we actually. We do things like make sure that, um, it can be so tempting to be like I’m going to shower after today because today’s going to be really hot, but like making sure that we’re showered and cleaned before. Um, just so the skin isn’t like already. Hot sweaty clogs, you know, and then you go on into the heat and then that’s a lot of times he rushes is the Cod as sweat, glands and stuff.

[00:32:38] So I’m kind of giving yourself a good base to then get hot and sweaty. I haven’t shower after. Um, but kind of doing a double dipping on it. Make sure you’re, uh, I guess not giving a good 

[00:32:51] Tiffany: environment for heat, right? That’s a great tip. And I like, we live the long sleeve UPF shirts too. Like, especially when it’s really hot and sunny, it also saved me having to apply sunscreen as often.

[00:33:02] So that’s also great. I was 

[00:33:05] Sara: actually just going to comment on that too, like, and those are really good for that. 

[00:33:10] Tiffany: There are a lot of them are surprisingly. I mean, they, they do sometimes seem warmer, but they’re surprisingly cool because they’re made out of fabrics that are meant to be wicking, not necessarily like the rash guard.

[00:33:20] So cause those can actually get really hot, but the ones that are made for like fishing and those kinds of things that are that real, lightweight and looser fit, um,

[00:33:32] Yeah, totally. And the other thing I was thinking, I know it’s not exactly he crashed, but the other thing that sometimes happens too, is like you said, the friction and some of you have a spot in particular that because of your anatomy or whatever, you know, you’re still gonna have friction, no matter what you do, they do make like that.

[00:33:48] It’s what is it? The one called there’s like a silicone type based formula. Monastery actually makes that other ones, but there’s a different company that makes one, and you can put it like under your arms, if it’s running or whatever, and it’ll help prevent that friction or between, you know, on your legs or wherever those spots are.

[00:34:05] And it does help in those areas that are going to stay hotter. Um, but you don’t have to kind of rate plans. I don’t know, it’s not always the most perfect, but it helps a little totally. But yeah. Anything else to add to no heat rash or friction? 

[00:34:22] Stephanie: No, I think the point on like breathable clothing is great.

[00:34:26] Um, we use Merino wall even in the summer. Cause it’s so breathable and like moisture. And I baby wear. So, um, we just like sweat over each other. It’s kind of gross, but, um, soon as I take maybe the off we’re like quickly tried, if we, wherever, you know, um, Patagonia actually make some really great, uh, UV sweaters, kind of that you’re talking about three even hooded, but they’re so lightweight.

[00:34:49] Um, they’re not warm 

[00:34:51] Tiffany: or anything. I don’t feel hot in it. And some love that. Yeah, I have one just like that. There was mountain harden. That’s mountain hardware, and I love it too. So. 

[00:35:04] Sara: When you, when you were talking about wearing your baby and like taking it off, I keep thinking to myself, I have a breathable hiking backpack and I still sweat all over my backpack.

[00:35:14] Like there’s no escaping it. I just like, I can’t wait until we get somewhere and I can take it off. And I’m like, oh, 

[00:35:22] Tiffany: magic. Ooh, that’s a great tip too, using a cool towel or one of those cooling towels between, um, there to LA. So between like the baby and the two or the baby on you, or, um, that’s a great tip.

[00:35:35] I like that idea, actually, that makes me think of one thing that I didn’t mention before the I’m thinking we’ve done when we’re really hot or somewhere, we just can’t call up and we are by a body of water. Kind of along Rachel’s line where she like her husband will take the water and just ask them, but we actually will like take their shirts off.

[00:35:51] I mean, boys, but I’ll take their shirts off and dunk them and get them soaking, soaking, wet, wear their hat or whatever. Cause all of that, just fitting, getting her body for her as well. Yeah. 

[00:36:02] Rachel: If they’re there sun hats, which obviously we want. I only have two that will wear sunhats and one that refuses, but know, put that on him as much, get them through it on our last hike.

[00:36:14] I got to the waterfall and I was like, Nope, I’m fine. So I took my TIG top and completely soaked it and put it back on because. Just having like a little bit of water on you makes a huge difference. So, but we do that and we’ll just their whole clothes. And then they dry as they hike. 

[00:36:34] Tiffany: Definitely. Um, and it looks like, I think somebody actually, who my husband said, he thinks it might be runner sign, but we were talking about, um, so the other, anyway, I think anybody else have any questions?

[00:36:49] If you have any more. I haven’t had any, I 

[00:36:54] Stephanie: was going to write down the one about, um, Rachel’s husband, but then it was her husband. 

[00:37:01] Tiffany: That’s my awesome. Are you 

[00:37:06] Stephanie: all married to nurses as well? 

[00:37:09] Tiffany: Like are we eating. I am

[00:37:17] Stephanie: not a nurse either. So, and it’s funny cause I’m the opposite. Like I’m a nurse, but I’m like, but did you die? Like, are 

[00:37:23] Tiffany: you bleeding? Are you okay? Yeah. Walking.

[00:37:37] Yeah. Opposite. Like 

[00:37:38] Stephanie: mom, you’re a nurse 

[00:37:39] Tiffany: you’re supposed to care. I’m like, no, not how this works.

[00:37:49] Sara: When our youngest daughter was two, we were actually up in, um, in the Pacific Northwest. And she had, I think I told Tiffany this, but she had fallen and she hit her head on a table, like right when we got to a hotel and she actually almost amputated the top part of her ear. And when it had happened. Yeah, it was really bad.

[00:38:10] My husband kind of picked her up because he thought she’d just hit her head, but he moved her hair away and her ear kind of went with it and like, I’ve never seen someone get white so fast in my entire life. And he just gave me this look. What did we do? And, and all I could do, I was like, somebody go get a cold wet rag and let’s happen the car.

[00:38:29] And I put it on her ears. Like, why aren’t you not panicking? I’m like, there is nothing to panic about. It’s her ear, first of all. So she lost and it like, it sucks, but I mean, come on, I’m much more worried about a concussion, 

[00:38:43] Tiffany: you know, organs are okay.

[00:38:49] That’s so funny. See with my kids, I’m not calm, no matter what it is like, no, I mean, 

[00:38:54] Stephanie: when it’s an emergency, like my, my youngest, but she a little, almost fully amputated her finger too, and I was not okay. Okay. Uh, but that’s like kind of the only way. Like when it’s actually serious. I’m like my nurse brain goes out the 

[00:39:09] Tiffany: window when it’s mine.

[00:39:10] Oh, 

[00:39:11] Sara: well there, I actually, I actually requested to stay in the room while they did her surgery and they left me. It was pretty cool.

[00:39:21] Yeah. It was crazy. They did a conscious sedation. So she, um, she was like, well, I can’t even say she was conscious because they must’ve gave her. I don’t know. I don’t even know what they gave her, to be honest, but they gave her something and she was awake, but she like, obviously couldn’t remember anything.

[00:39:42] And I just remember being really crazy because they had to do three layers of stitches to her ear to connect like the cartilage and the soft tissue and things like that. And I remember her just like, kind of staring up at the ceiling and I’m like, this is weird. You know, she didn’t know we were there.

[00:39:57] It was just, it was crazy, but it was cool to see. I’ve never seen such a delicate surgery before. 

[00:40:04] Stephanie: Yeah. If it was your year, I’d be okay with it. But as my kids,

[00:40:12] Tiffany: that’s funny. It’s definitely different when it’s somebody you’re really close to where it can be sometimes. I don’t know. Like, I’m kinda like you, Stephanie, sometimes if it’s super severe, I’m a little more concerned, but then if it’s like, it’s gotta be real severe though. Like. Mean? Yeah, but even then, like, I feel like even when my, my youngest had his like peanut reaction, I was able to still like, have my, where with all wherewithal and do what I needed to do and, you know, get through things, but like, It was like that, I don’t know it was, it was a little panicky, but it was like, I still know what to do.

[00:40:40] And like, we’re just going to move through a classroom and do it. So like it’s. Yeah. Anyway, um, well, I just wanted to say thank you to everybody for joining us. You ladies, for taking time out of your evening to chat with me and for everybody who hopped on and off during the live, I know it’s like dinner time bedtime for everybody.

[00:40:57] So we will, um, Try to save this and come back and listen to it again. And if you guys actually want anymore and so about heat related illnesses or how to be safe when you’re venturing the heat, a couple of weeks ago, I sent an email to our email list with way more deep, like nitty gritty details that included things like.

[00:41:18] Signs and symptoms and I even put totally put in their AP chart. So what your page should look like, what it should not look like and like your warning signs. Yeah. So actually that’s something we can touch on real quick. So there’s like, obviously, you know, when you go to the bathroom that you’re having different colors of urine, right?

[00:41:36] So if it’s really light yellow to clear, you’re, you’re good. You’re staying hydrated. Your body is getting the amount of fluid that it needs. But if it’s starting to creep into that really dark. Or brownish color. You’re definitely not drinking enough and you should be hydrating and probably getting yourself out of that heat, if, even if you’re not experiencing symptoms yet, because you will be turned off if you’re not already.

[00:42:00] So I have a chart and all of that, that was included in the email. And I am going to put that in our bio here, as soon as we get off this so that you guys can just go click on that, read the information, if you want to see the chart and all the details as well. Okay. But anyway, um, I just got my, you spent a lot of time on Instagram today.

[00:42:22] Um, okay. So, um, anybody have any last minute things to add or any questions that we missed? No, but of course, 

[00:42:31] Stephanie: yeah, we’re all available. And our various different accounts to answer questions, definitely going to check out your blog and your P chart. I’m very active.

[00:42:44] Tiffany: That’s the nurse in me, right? This was fun. Thanks for having me. Thank you guys. I appreciate it. Um, love following all of you and I think you guys are on and don’t already follow them. You will love them too. They have such fun adventures and their kids are vulnerable. Uh, that is it. And thank you everybody.

[00:43:06] Have a great night. 

[00:43:07] Sara: Awesome. Yep.

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